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Sad Deterioration of Val Kilmer

This video shows just how poor Val’s condition is after throat cancer treatment.

I’ve always been a big fan and thought that he could make a huge comeback or at least a few more awesome films. But no, it’s over.

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by Anonymousreply 94February 28, 2018 3:38 PM

He was so gorgeous and talented (and, by some accounts, difficult too)

I am sad, but hey, at least he is alive

I hope he has the funds to live with comfort for the rest of his life

by Anonymousreply 1February 21, 2018 11:13 PM

When I said Val had throat cancer, he denied it.

by Anonymousreply 3February 21, 2018 11:21 PM

It sounds like Val had part of his tongue removed, and maybe even his jaw- He may have had part of his throat removed, based on how his neck is lurched over. He said he had part of his trachea removed..

Horribly sad. God bless everyone suffering from this disease.

by Anonymousreply 4February 21, 2018 11:28 PM

He was supposed to be a raging diva asshole, in his prime.

by Anonymousreply 5February 21, 2018 11:29 PM

Yes, he was gorgeous.

It appears that his kids like to spend time with him. That must make him feel good.

The son looks a little like him.

by Anonymousreply 6February 21, 2018 11:38 PM

Bless his heart. His children are sweet and seems like they have a great relationship. I hope his health improves.

by Anonymousreply 7February 22, 2018 12:02 AM

His performance in The Doors should have won him the Oscar. He wasn't even nominated. Stupid fucking Academy.

by Anonymousreply 8February 22, 2018 12:13 AM

Was it cruel to ask the kids to recall their favorite Val roles? He was at his peak during the Tombstone and Heat years.

Such an entertaining performer. Never boring.

by Anonymousreply 9February 22, 2018 12:21 AM

I had no idea he was sick and had cancer, I'm shocked and sad. That was tramatizing to watch not knowing he's had/has cancer.

by Anonymousreply 10February 22, 2018 12:35 AM

Val is somewhat active on reddit. Forgot his username sorry, you can google. He used it for his ama so it's no secret.

by Anonymousreply 12February 22, 2018 12:40 AM

Hope he gradually improves. We still love to see him on screen.

by Anonymousreply 13February 22, 2018 12:47 AM

I thought he was his hottest in Top Secret!

by Anonymousreply 14February 22, 2018 1:08 AM

That rasp? I don’t think that there’s any coming back from that.

Though I hope that there is. Talented, charismatic guy.

by Anonymousreply 15February 22, 2018 1:10 AM

There's no coming back from that R13. He may find some specific roles, but there's not coming back from that.

by Anonymousreply 16February 22, 2018 1:30 AM

Actually, it’s more of a labored croak than a rasp. Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 17February 22, 2018 1:32 AM

This was painful to watch.

by Anonymousreply 18February 22, 2018 1:39 AM

Val Kilmer back in the day.

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by Anonymousreply 19February 22, 2018 1:42 AM

I wonder if he had the baby?

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by Anonymousreply 20February 22, 2018 1:44 AM

I recently watched Willow, first time since seeing it in the theater when it was released. Still crap, but I still liked Kilmer in it. I had a little crush on him for awhile even though he could be a little precious diva. I thought his Doors performance was an obvious BIG ACTING performance. He was great in Heat and Tombstone and Top Secret was fantastic dumb fun. It was good to see him not take himself so seriously.

And I must be the only teenager in the 80's who has never seen Top Gun. Didn't see it in the theater and have never seen it on TV. Does it get any airplay?

Shocking to see him like this but good for him to not hide away.

by Anonymousreply 21February 22, 2018 1:57 AM

He was great in Real Genius.

by Anonymousreply 22February 22, 2018 2:00 AM

Top Secret! is one of my favorites.

by Anonymousreply 23February 22, 2018 2:02 AM

I'm glad he did this with his kids - sending good wishes.

by Anonymousreply 24February 22, 2018 2:09 AM

Maybe they could do an all-male version of [italic]The Miracle Worker[/italic] and Val could play "L.N. Keller." There's not a whole lot of talking by the Keller character, so no one would be any the wiser.

Glad I could help.

by Anonymousreply 25February 22, 2018 2:47 AM

Great in "Wonderland" too. A perfect Johnny Holmes somehow. He knew how to tap into the essence of real people whether he really resembled them or not.

by Anonymousreply 26February 22, 2018 2:51 AM

Did you notice how he postioned his head and the camera angles used ? The right side of his face must be a mess after the surgery and radiation. Did'nt he gain a huge amount of weight some years ago? He looks good for this age from what I can see , not bad for 58.

Did he have the type of oral cancer that arises from exposure to HPV ?

by Anonymousreply 27February 22, 2018 4:05 AM

It is obvious that he had a stroke.

by Anonymousreply 28February 22, 2018 5:50 AM

Who was he? Did he do Judy Garland films?

by Anonymousreply 29February 22, 2018 6:01 AM

I give him credit for going in front of a camera in that condition. I think I would hide if I were like that. His kids seem sweet. He is a world-famous diva, but I wonder if he was a good dad.

by Anonymousreply 30February 22, 2018 6:04 AM

Is he trying to help the kids launch their showbiz careers? Why else make the video?

by Anonymousreply 31February 22, 2018 6:06 AM

Considering everything he has been through, I think he still looks good.

Both Jack and Mercedes are his children he had with Joanne Whalley.

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by Anonymousreply 32February 22, 2018 6:18 AM

I could’ve turned out like that. I had a stage ll squamous cell carcinoma in my left tonsil. Rather than dissect my jaw/neck they gave me massive focused-beam radiation and blasted it away. I developed TMJ from the aftereffects and can hardly only open my mouth enough to get a carrot in. So you can imagine what that did for my sex life.

by Anonymousreply 33February 22, 2018 6:44 AM

Both of Kilmer's kids look totally like their mum Joanne.

by Anonymousreply 34February 22, 2018 6:47 AM

Val's role as Madmardigan (sp) in Willow was my first real crush. He was so sexy in that role.

R38 Jack has done some modeling (surprise surprise- a celeb kid 'model') so he may he trying to break into acting. Wouldn't surprise me.

by Anonymousreply 35February 22, 2018 6:57 AM

Did he ever film his Mark Twain show? He seemed very proud of it.

by Anonymousreply 36February 22, 2018 12:14 PM

I don't know what his financial situation is. I know he had a place in New Mexico and spent a lot of time there. When he did Batman he and Joel Schumacher didn't get along at all and Joel was the one who called him a "psychopath." He & Tom Cruise remained friendly and when he hit a bad patch Tom helped him. If he wants to work Tom will make it happen. If he needs financial help or care Tom will deal with that.

by Anonymousreply 37February 22, 2018 12:59 PM

R33 Good to hear you were able to overcome your cancer.

by Anonymousreply 38February 22, 2018 12:59 PM

Well this is what fucking religion does for you. As I heard it, Val is a Christian Scientist and when he first developed cancer he denied he had it then he decided he would "treat" it without medicine or medical doctors. That went on until his obvious deterioration alarmed his children who intervened and insisted he get medical attention. through the efforts of his kids and his friends he finally got medical help.

by Anonymousreply 39February 22, 2018 1:04 PM

I saw him do a few talk shows back in the day. He's was nice. Very down to earth and good sense of humor. He 's very smart and he studied at Julliard.

by Anonymousreply 40February 22, 2018 1:06 PM

Doesn't he come from a very wealthy family?

He beat Joanne Whalley up and a few years ago, she had to take him to court to get the child maintenance money.

I am also glad that the earlier poster beat cancer.

by Anonymousreply 42February 22, 2018 2:38 PM

In Heat, Val Kilmer's character was the only one who survived. I loved the scene where he was outside standing by hiscar being question by the cops, and Ashley Judd was on the balcony and made that tiny, subtle gesture with her hand to tell him to go away.

by Anonymousreply 43February 22, 2018 3:24 PM

I never read he was a beater. Did he date others after Joan? Don't recall him being with anyone famous after her.

by Anonymousreply 44February 22, 2018 3:25 PM

His son Jack has had a lot of acting experience. He's under the radar, but he's worked a lot. His daughter? She doesn't look like she's trying to get into acting. I appreciate that she was dressed rather matronly, instead of what they usually wear in Hollywood. I would guess that he had a bigger hand in resigning them, because neither of the kids have an English accent.

by Anonymousreply 45February 22, 2018 3:30 PM

R43, my favorite scene too. I wish there was more on the Kilmer/Judd relationship in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 46February 22, 2018 3:41 PM

[Quote] Top Secret! is one of my favorites.

Mine too!

by Anonymousreply 47February 22, 2018 3:52 PM

But he led the crusade against movie nudity. So many times did I rush to the movies hoping to get a shot of at least his butt, only to be totally disappointed.

by Anonymousreply 48February 22, 2018 3:52 PM

In his utterly fascinating and never dull commentary track for "Heat," director Michael Mann talks about what would inevitably happen to Chris Shiherlis (Kilmer's character) after the film.

Mann says that Chris would never be able to walk away from his wife Charlene in the same way Neil was able to walk away from Eady. It may take months or years, but at some point Chris will eventually place a phone call to Charlene not knowing that her phone is tapped, and that call will lead federal agents to the country in which Chris had been hiding and he would be apprehended.

If you're a fan of commentary tracks, Mann's are among the very best.

As for Kilmer, he really was a fantastic actor in several films but yeah, he had a terrible reputation. When he finished his last day shooting on the (disastrous) "Island of Dr. Moreau," director John Frankenheimer reportedly said, "Now get that bastard off my set."

Side note for film buffs: Frankenheimer's commentary tracks are as insightful and entertaining as Mann's.

by Anonymousreply 49February 22, 2018 4:07 PM

Val is even great in junky movies like The Saint

I liked him as Batman. “The Bat Signal is not a beeper.”

Apparently he let the star of McGruber live in his house as a roommate situation.

by Anonymousreply 50February 22, 2018 5:52 PM

He was perfect in Real Genius. Snarky and sexy.

Even though the side-effects are obviously terrible, I hope he survives the cancer and can remain productive. His tweets are entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 51February 22, 2018 6:09 PM

I saw a really good political thriller by accident that had Val Kilmer in the lead. Called Spartan. It was really good. If you get a chance. I don't know how recent that video is but he's been working fairly regularly including two projects for 2018 that are in post.

by Anonymousreply 53February 22, 2018 6:45 PM

The poor man has been battling cancer for years. Give him a break.

by Anonymousreply 54February 22, 2018 6:48 PM

I agree 100% he should have won the oscar for The Doors.

by Anonymousreply 55February 22, 2018 6:52 PM

Yes but someone touched Brendan Fraser's taint.

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by Anonymousreply 56February 22, 2018 6:58 PM

He was very good in Thunderheart (1992) with Sam Shepard and Graham Greene, a critically acclaimed but lesser known film.

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by Anonymousreply 58February 22, 2018 7:49 PM

THE SNOWMAN is a very recent thriller worth checking out with Kilmer.

Kilmer still had all his faculties, so I wonder how he could have lost them so quickly and when that film was shot.

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by Anonymousreply 59February 22, 2018 8:14 PM

I think RDJ stayed friends with him after they did Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. There were several pictures of them socializing. I remember in one Val looked very thin.

KKBB was always one of my favorite movies. Val plays a gay private investigator by the name of Perry Van Shrike. His and Downey's scenes together are hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 60February 22, 2018 8:41 PM

I always say that you shouldn't bother to fight off smoking, drinking too much or getting fat in middle age. Cancer, a heart attack or the diabetes will thin you down in your 60s and 70s. The unexpected bonus is that most dicks start being nicer to their kids. Thanks Val.

by Anonymousreply 61February 22, 2018 8:56 PM

R61 -- THat's partly because, as men age, their testosterone decreases and their estrogen increases, making most older men kinder. The opposite is true in women: their estrogen decreases while their testosterone increases, which is why a lot of older women get crotchety.

by Anonymousreply 62February 22, 2018 9:09 PM

One of his greatest credits was fucking me.

by Anonymousreply 63February 22, 2018 9:10 PM

58 Forgot about Thunderheart, that was a good movie.

by Anonymousreply 64February 22, 2018 9:16 PM

I know Jack, he’s pretty cool and really friendly. No attitude. I’ve never told him that I think his dad seems like a huge asshole though.

by Anonymousreply 65February 22, 2018 9:27 PM

r33 I keep getting that on my bottom lip. I have to use Efudex which just used on the mouth is a horror

by Anonymousreply 66February 22, 2018 9:43 PM

[quote]He & Tom Cruise remained friendly and when he hit a bad patch Tom helped him. If he wants to work Tom will make it happen. If he needs financial help or care Tom will deal with that.

You just know that Tom wanted to hit that ass six ways to Sunday back in the Top Gun days. Kilmer was hot AF back then.

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by Anonymousreply 67February 22, 2018 9:59 PM

His kids are glad he's alive and I'll bet he is, too.

by Anonymousreply 68February 22, 2018 10:11 PM

Here’s Val talking about the Top Gun sequel. Apparently this is from June 2013.

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by Anonymousreply 69February 22, 2018 10:11 PM

Kathleen Quinlan hates his guts

by Anonymousreply 70February 22, 2018 10:19 PM

Poor guy. He looks great there in R69.

by Anonymousreply 71February 22, 2018 10:34 PM

Y'all need glasses R71. He always had fat head syndrome but he doesn't look great in R69. He looks healthy, not handsome handsome. That's a pig head with tiny eyes and pouty lips. He looks like Bernadette Peters.

DL loves grief porn. No one has a nice word to say about Val Kilmer till he has half a face left. Not much of an actor and a world class dick. I wish him well but who cares? Go volunteer at your local hospital or shelter you ghouls.

by Anonymousreply 72February 22, 2018 10:40 PM

he's sexy as fuck in the ghost and he darkness

by Anonymousreply 73February 22, 2018 10:41 PM

some of us are fans, R72. Go fuck yourself (as always)

by Anonymousreply 74February 22, 2018 10:43 PM

Take my advice R74. As always.

by Anonymousreply 75February 22, 2018 10:49 PM

I don't say this to be snarky at all, but listening to him reminds me a little of Brando. It's his tone of voice and his presence as an experienced actor that projects his expressed comments even somewhat effectively. I agree with others who say his speech probably can't get better, but his attitude seems good and it's clear there is a solid bond with his kids. Good for all of them; however much longer he lives, or doesn't, they have something going on that will make his death a more peaceful one for everyone.

by Anonymousreply 76February 22, 2018 11:54 PM

I just realized I've seen quite a few of his movies. Even one where he was blind with Mira Sorvino, I think. I loved Thunderheart and I loved Ghost & the Darkness. Spartan was good too. Weird Science, Top Gun , Kiss Kiss Bang bang , The Saint, The Doors, etc. even Batman Forever. I always liked him. Never knew he was an asshole. I only ever saw him on talk shows and he seemed to be on good behavior. I tell you what, that man was hot in his prime. He was seriously hot.

by Anonymousreply 77February 23, 2018 2:58 AM

In the movie The Island Of Dr. Moreau, Val Kilmer's overbearing diva behavior became legendary. The first director quit and other people on the set also had a terrible time with Val. The second director who managed to salvage the film stated that Kilmer was difficult and would never work with him again.

Add to that was the fact that quirky Marlon Brando (pictured) was also in the film and was also maddening to work with.

Working with both Kilmer and Brando on the same movie would be enough to bring any director close to a breakdown.

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by Anonymousreply 78February 23, 2018 3:00 AM

R72 sounds like the insane "I'm the only black man on the DL and I'm collecting dossiers on all you white fuckers and I'm suing Mediapolis and I am going to follow you home and cut your throats" troll that has been shitting up the site for years. You can tell by the fetishistic language and the mama's-basement omniscience.

A cunt's cunt.

It doesn't matter what one thinks or thought of Val Kilmer's looks. It's the disgusting investment this creature instills in her own opinions.

Just watch her after this post.

by Anonymousreply 79February 23, 2018 3:06 AM

You sound unhinged R79. Who pissed in your cornflakes? Sounds like a miss warwick post, but much more disturbed. There are many black men posting on DL but only one ancient white racist who claims to be miss warwick. You seem very distressed R79. Ask the nurse for some ativan tonight.

by Anonymousreply 81February 23, 2018 3:39 AM

Did Ron Howard like working with him on Willow? I know that's where he met Joanne but I wonder how filming went.

by Anonymousreply 82February 23, 2018 3:53 AM

About his Derringer] I call it my "faggot gun", because it's only good for a couple of shots and then you have to drop it for something better.

by Anonymousreply 83February 23, 2018 4:23 AM

Kilmer at his impish worst or best: Said he was filming The Island of Dr Moreau with Marlon Brando and...Brando was playing the island.

by Anonymousreply 85February 24, 2018 4:45 AM

You can support Val by buying stuff from his website.

Such as a signed color photo of Val as Jim Morrisson for $100.

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by Anonymousreply 86February 26, 2018 9:30 PM

My two favorite films of his are TOMBSTONE and KILL ME AGAIN. I wish him well.

by Anonymousreply 87February 26, 2018 9:43 PM

Some of his artwork for sale is kind of cool. I’m sure the fanboys are snapping up the Batman stuff.

by Anonymousreply 88February 28, 2018 2:26 PM

This is why you should never, ever make fun of someone. You don't know what, whether it's physical or mental, what may actually be going on.

😿 Why is human kindness and compassion so difficult for some people ?

by Anonymousreply 89February 28, 2018 2:43 PM

This is why you should never smoke, you fucking stinky pathetic addicts.

by Anonymousreply 90February 28, 2018 3:16 PM

r89 You ask this question on DL and expect a serious reply?

by Anonymousreply 91February 28, 2018 3:18 PM

It will be tough to witness Val’s sad last decades.

by Anonymousreply 92February 28, 2018 3:34 PM

[quote]Why is human kindness and compassion so difficult for some people ?

Because kindness and compassion are foreign to humans, who are selfish, nasty, brutal, and cruel. See any DL thread for details.

by Anonymousreply 94February 28, 2018 3:38 PM

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